Indiana Congresswoman Victoria Spartz says House Speaker Kevin McCarthy is not the cause of the current dysfunction in Washington, D.C., but a symptom.

The House is virtually deadlocked over a plan to avoid a government shutdown.

Speaking to Indy Politics Thursday, Spartz says McCarthy has spent most of his life in Washington and failed on a number of issues.

When asked if he should remain Speaker, Spartz if McCarthy can’t deliver on the debt and border security, then it may be time for a new Speaker.

You can hear Spartz in the Leon-Tailored Audio above.  It runs for about ten minutes.