With today being the 4th of July, Indy Politics decided to sit down and have a conversation with Matt Hanka, Associate political science professor at the University of Southern Indiana about the current state of our politics.

In addition, we also ask about how the Holcomb administration is viewed outside the “465 bubble” and whether third parties will make any traction in the state in 2020.

The Leon-Tailored Audio runs about 18 minutes.