Although he is behind in the polls here in Indiana, Republican Presidential candidate Ted Cruz called Donald Trump a phony during a campaign stop in Plainfield and challenged the billionaire to a debate before the May primary.

Two recent polls showed Cruz trailing Trump anywhere from four to eight points.  And the John Kasich team says it has secured the pledges of most of the delegates at stake on the second ballot.

Despite that, Cruz says he can win Indiana.  And when speaking to the media he took Trump to task on his positions and called on him to debate in Indiana prior to the May 3 primary.

A spokesman for the Trump campaign in Indiana responded by saying “Cruz is  desperate man and his campaign is facing desperate times.”

You can hear Cruz’s comments in the Leon-Tailored Audio above.  It runs approximately 14 minutes.